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Tuesday, September 20, 2005

Pastor Hagee's scandal and petition

Pastor John & Diane Hagee
Pastor John Hagee

James 3:1
Not many of you should presume to be
teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

Update: The Open Letter was sent to Pastor Hagee, with over 100 signatures, in Sept. 2005. I expect him to ignore this, so I will continue to collect more signatures to let him know that more and more will know of this scandal, until he repents. I've also sent out hundreds of postcards to other ministers, esp. those in San Antonio near his base church (Cornerstone Church), to let them know of this scandal in their neighborhood.)

Hi All-

I reworked and revised the petition, due to many discussions and prayer. The big change: rather than go to the IRS, the goal is to perfectly align with our Lord Jesus' advice in Matthew 18. This is implemented by:

1. Explaining the problem.

2. Writing an open letter to Pastor Hagee, asking him to repent and make amends for this serious lifestyle of sin/greed in his life and mishandling donor money.

3. Asking for witnesses (you) to sign the letter (petition) and stand-up to Pastor Hagee as a fellow believer. If he refuses to repent, we are not to treat him as a fellow believer in fellowship, but regard him as an unbeliever, according to our Lord Jesus.

Please go to the petition, read it, and see if you can sign it, if you haven't yet. Here's the petition: http://raydehler.com/fgn/

It's very difficult to stand-up to a fellow believer that is sinning. It wasn't easy for Jesus to stand-up to the religious leaders of His day and clear the temple (Matt. 21:12-13), . It wasn't easy for the prophet Nathan to confront King David in his sin (2 Samuel 12:7). The choice: do you want to do what's easy, or do you want to obey God? It's bad enough that Pastor Hagee is a very visible minister, bringing shame upon the whole church (the body of Christ) by his greed. But he adds to that by condoning the sin by what is called "the prosperity gospel." Jesus said we can't serve two masters (God and money). Hagee says we can (as long as you give a minimum 10% to the church). What does God tell us? That we are to use ALL of our time, treasure, and talent as good stewards of God. We need to submit everything to God, not just 10% of our increase.


If you'd like to see a TV show I did on this topic, you can download it now to your computer and watch it, just click here. I have over 20 points regarding why Pastor Hagee should be exposed
and disciplined. Click here to see the MS PowerPoint slides.


To sign the petition, click here. The number of worldwide signers, I'm surprised, is VERY few.. Pastor Hagee must be laughing, saying "see, who cares?" However, much good is being brought by this, in that the news is going out. I firmly believe that it's impossible for this high-level sin to continue, and I think the crash will be mighty and loud when it happens... a mini-judgment day for him. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it ends up with some jail time for him. Speaking of jails and ministers, here's an article about the investigations with Benny Hinn (article) and Morris Cerrulo (article).

Some pastors have signed this, mostly friends of mine. Why won't more sign? Two reasons I've seen. One, they don't want to raise the issue, so people won't ask them how much THEY make... let's not go there... Two, some want to be positive-only. I consider this a compromise... I would call them "ear-ticklers" (see 2 Tim. 2:3, click here). They don't want to upset supporters or donors. Apparently, they fear man (or loss of income) more than God. Some fundraising experts say it costs about $20 to acquire a good email address, so they do what they can to protect these investments in donor acquisition!

Webcast Description:
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Greedy Pastors
Sunday, August 7, 2005


Some prominent Christian pastors have serious greed problems, and they are not being confronted by fellow Christians, by and large. Bernie lays out the case why, as Christians, we need to take a stand against
this cancer in the Church. Bernie answers over 20 of the most common objections against standing-up to this immorality of stealing from God's people. These preachers are experts on Malachi Ch. 3, but act
as if they've never read Malachi Ch. 2! This kind of action by ministers really incenses our Lord to anger, as evidenced by when He turned over the tables in the Temple area.
Matthew 21:12-13 & Malachi 2:1-2


Malachi 2:1-2
"And now this admonition is for you, O priests. If you do not listen, and if you do not set your heart to honor my name," says the LORD Almighty, "I will send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have already cursed them, because you have not set your heart to honor me.

By the way, I found out that his church compensation, as Senior Pastor, is also disclosed on the G.E.T. tax form. From both ministries combined, he is taking well over $1 million of donor's money, yearly... money that was intended to build the kingdom of God. What will his donors think when they learn of this? We'll soon see...

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PPS: Here's an interesting version of Matt. 18:

Mattew 18:15-17 (The Message)
15"If a fellow believer hurts you, go and tell him--work it out between the two of you. If he listens,
you've made a friend. 16If he won't listen, take one or two others along so that the presence of witnesses will keep things honest, and try again. 17If he still won't listen, tell the church. If he won't listen to the church, you'll have to start over from scratch, confront him with the need for repentance, and offer again God's forgiving love.

5 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, so not really wanting to get into a drawn out dialog on this issue. BUT do you know how much he gives? I mean... most ppl are like 1% givers right... then you have people who swear by a tithe and make it an almost legal thing... then there are those who give simply out of a heart of worship...

So like if he gives 10% of his income, is it ok to make that much? What if he keeps increasing his giving because his income keeps increasing... I mean maybe he is giving 50% or 75% or more...

Maybe he DOES use 100% of his time and money for God and thats why God continues to increase his income?

I don't know. I don't know his heart, I don't know how he gives or how he lives his life outside of the public eye. And I'm not real sure he has to justify his walk and prove his giving to anyone.

I do know I don't think its inherently wrong to make money... its the life you live. Plus he will be judged and held even more accountable for his actions than the average Joe off the street.

12:06 PM  
Blogger Zeke said...

I support what you're doing. The church needs people to stand up and question and speak the truth IF they do their research, get their facts right and handle it Biblically, which you certainly seem to be doing.

One question, though: it looks like there are actually 3 Hagee corporate officers, but that's not necessarily the same thing as a Board of Directors. Is it only corporate officers that are on his board?

9:53 AM  
Blogger FreeGoodNews.com said...

There are four Board Members for Hagee's Global Evangelism Television, three of which are Hagee's:
1. John Hagee
2. His wife Diane
3. Their son

1:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i know pastor hagee preaches the truth about same sex marriages being wrong which it is read the bible what it says dont take my word 4 it read why god destoyed sodom and gamorrah amen too that god made adam and eve not adam and steve keep preaching against it pastor hagee and at least he preaches the truth

9:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

regarding your broadcasts on Israel- who do you understand to be the legal authority over the land of israel? My understanding is that according to both God and International Law, the state of Israel has authority (ownership) after Jordan attacked them in the 1967 war. Wouldn't that require that the PA is not a legal authority?

6:04 PM  

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